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[Translation] Johnnys-net KKL Uwasa

ms-suspicious
Continuing the KKL-themed translation from:
http://johnnys-net.net/Forum/T.asp?bID=3&ID=6853

These are the rumours. Best taken with a big pinch of salt and sense of humour. =D

Some very vague ones have been skipped. =P Also, a lot of these came up during the period KinKi insisted that they did not meet up privately, so they brought up seemingly small things whose point was simply to counter that statement.


Notes:

- I didn't verify the authenticity of any of these. The text I translated from also never vouched for its truthfulness.

- These are summaries, only a few parts were direct translations. I have merged similar posts that seem to be versions of the same story, based on my interpretation.

- (Bracketed) are the original poster's comments. [Square-bracketed] and * italicized asterisks are my own translation notes. The numbering refers to the forum posts, for back-reference.

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#5-30 | #142
In 1995 KinKi went to Hawaii for 'Get The KinKi' photoshoots. After the work was completed, the two of them went to New York on their own vacation for 7--10 days. No one else went along with them. KinKi talked about this New York visit in Donnamonya. They apparently bought a Barbie doll there.

#6-32
KinKi were spotted at a mall carpark about to go home after shopping.

#6-33
Kouichi was seen taking a long-haired daschund [referring to Kenshirou] out for walks.

#6-34
On radio, Tsuyoshi said he wanted to buy a bigger TV set to play games on. Kouichi's instant reply: "Your TV is very big already, you still want a new one?"
* I suppose the point was to counter what they said about never visiting each other's houses.

#6-35 | #10-3
The Case of the Equidistant Love Nest: Rumors said that the two of them had bought a small house located at the middle of their houses, about the same distance from Tsuyoshi's as it was from Kouichi's. Allegedly it had been disclosed in the past, and some fans had seen it.

#6-36
The Case of the Hapless Staff: Reportedly, the staff around KinKi were all aware of their love-love antics. Once, a new staff went to call them for standby. As he opened the door to the dressing room, he saw Tsuyoshi pressing on top of Kouichi, doing nobody-knew-what. He quickly got out and closed the door.

#6-38
Donnamonya: a fans mentioned a rumor she heard that KinKi went for a drink, got drunk, then kissed each other on the mouth right then and there.
* Why isn't there any mention about their reactions, lol.

#7-39
Donnamonya: Tsuyoshi, hosting alone, said that Kouichi only needed to place a phonecall saying, "Tsuyoshi, I want to eat red bean bread," to get it delivered. Tsuyoshi complained, "WTH did I so obediently do the delivery."

#7-40
Whenever KinKi went overseas, if staff asked Kouichi whether he wanted to eat out or to go somewhere, Kouichi would tell them to ask Tsuyoshi. If Tsuyoshi didn't plan to go out, Kouichi would say, "I'll just stay at the hotel today, not going out."
* This (or some variation of this) should be true because they talked about it on DK.

#7-41
When Kouichi guested on Kishidan's radio show to promote his new single, he kept talking about Tsuyoshi having a 15-sec kiss scene on his latest drama and how long that was.

#7-42
Kouichi was wearing a Kindaichi jacket at Ginrou's shooting location. It was known that Tsuyoshi did visit the location, and even made a guest appearance in the series footage.
* I remembered this appeared on my f-list once, and yes, jandeth has the evidential picture! <3
* Edit: Case explained


#7-43 | #94
For an episode of Pikaichi, Kouichi had to take the ship license test. There was a typhoon on that day. A worried Tsuyoshi dropped by with Kenshirou. Staff asked him to join in the filming, but Tsuyoshi turned down the offer and said that he was only passing by while taking Kenshirou for a walk. (Taking a walk in the typhoon?) This story was reported in Wink Up 2001.

#7-44
On Johnny's Power, Kouichi said his house was under renovation, and he couldn't carry on sleeping because of the noise. Tsuyoshi, who was at his side, walked away with a smile. (Didn't Kouichi live alone? If he was sleeping, who opened the door for the workers? How suspicious!)

#7-45
On the episode of Pop Jam with Fujii Fumiya as the guest, Tsuyoshi was also on location. KinKi then left together in a car.

#7-47
Tsuyoshi often went to Daikanyama, sometimes buying clothes for Kouichi.

#7-48
Kouichi was seen going shopping with Kenshirou in his arms.

#7-49
Someone saw KinKi in a shop, with Kouichi carrying the basket and Tsuyoshi picking up things to buy. (A shopping couple...)

#7-50
KinKi was seen fooling around in a mall carpark. Kouichi's car was parked beside them, and Kenshirou was inside the car. (These two :||||)

#7-52
A guy who joined the PV filming for KinKi's 'Suki ni Natteku Aishiteku' single wanted to chat with KinKi while on the road, but Kouichi and Tsuyoshi kept talking among themselves in such good mood, that he couldn't get a word in between.

#7-53
After KinKi's concert in Taiwan, a few Japanese fans were in the same flight [back to Japan?] as KinKi. A fans greeted them, and Tsuyoshi smiled and responded kindly. Another said to Kouichi, "Please work hard in the concert." Kouichi replied "Yes" in a small voice. A fans sitting at the same row as KinKi saw that Kouichi had beer while Tsuyoshi had ice cream. Tsuyoshi said to Kouichi, "I want to have a sip," then drank Kouichi's beer. Kouichi later drank from the same glass.

#7-58
After MS filming on 18 May [2001?] Tsuyoshi followed Kouichi home. Not long afterwards Kouichi was seen at the convenience store for 15 minutes before returning home. It was only the next morning that they were seen leaving the house for a magazine photoshoot. (What did they do over the night?)

#7-59
There was a time Tsuyoshi contemplated quitting the jimusho, and went home to Nara. Kouichi and Nagase went to Tsuyoshi's home to persuade him to return. Kouichi said to Tsuyoshi's mother, "Please leave Tsuyoshi in my care." In another version of this rumour, it was Tsuyoshi's mother who went to the jimusho to take him home.

#7-60
Their houses were actually less than 10 minutes apart. Kouichi often walked Tsuyoshi home.

#7-61
Kouichi once bought Tsuyoshi a BMW racing car as a birthday present.

#7-62
During the 2001 Taiwan concert, Kouichi asked staff to buy all the snacks they could find outside, because Tsuyoshi wanted to try out the food.

#7-63
The Case of the Hapless Staff II: This one is another rumor about a new, uninformed staff who got a shock from opening the door to KinKi's dressing room, but this time it was Kouichi on top, straddling Tsuyoshi with his head nuzzling Tsuyoshi's neck.

#7-65
This happened during Love Love Aishiteru trip to either Okinawa or Hawaii. Off-camera, Tsuyoshi for unknown reason got upset and left the group to return to the hotel on his own. After a while Kouichi went after him, and they ended up kissing in front of the hotel room door (heart). (Or should we say, Tsuyoshi got kissed by Kouichi, lol.) Kouichi said, "Don't cause any more trouble, let's go back." Tsuyoshi was fine after that. (It must be hard to stay stubborn after this kind of persuasion from the partner, right?)

#8-66
Kouichi once said to Tsuyoshi: "You should be a woman in your next life and marry me." Tsuyoshi asked why he should be the wife. Kouichi replied that it was because Tsuyoshi could do laundry. (*sweatdrops* such a WTH reasoning)

#8-68
Takizawa Hideaki mentioned how he heard moans from KinKi's dressing room (LOL). Later on, a fans sent a postcard to either Donnamonya or Kinkira to clarify this. KinKi said they had been playing videogames, so the sound must have come from there. (But KinKi once mentioned that the games they played were the likes of soccer or war games; surely Takizawa's hearing wouldn't be so bad as to mistake these sounds?)

#8-69
During F Con, Tsuyoshi's hyperventilation acted up, so Kouichi took over the MC job that he normally didn't like. The following day, Tsuyoshi's condition improved, but everyone noticed that Kouichi in turn seemed very tired. (It must have been tiring to take care of that cute little one.)

#8-70
F Con MC: KinKi mentioned how they would send SMS-es to each other even though they were face to face. Afterwards, Tsuyoshi said, "Please send me an SMS at 5am." (5am, sending SMS, facing each other, what are you doing?)

#9-71
On a Japanese gay publication: someone spotted Kouichi in his car at the red lights, looking intimate with a very good looking girl at the front passenger seat. Later on he realized that 'girl' was actually Tsuyoshi. (0_o)

#9-1
Paparazzi vs Jimusho, Round 1: There was a rumour that the two of them had been caught in a 'prohibited' photograph, that was later shushed down by the jimusho. It was Kouichi and Tsuyoshi in a park embracing and kissing. (No smoke without a fire?)

#9-2
During the time Tsuyoshi was holding his solo concert, a fan tried to 'catch' him. S/he waited for a long time, but only saw an 'old man' wearing all black and a fisherman's hat coming out of the place.

#10-4 | #12-26
[Cocorico's] Tanaka [Naoki] mentioned a phonecall to Tsuyoshi, during which Tsuyoshi said to him, "Shh, Kouichi is sleeping beside me." Another version said that he went to Tsuyoshi's place and Tsuyoshi told him that Kouichi was sleeping inside the house. He told the story on a radio show.

#10-5
A journalist photographed KinKi going out together, hand in hand. It was after this incident that the homo rumours started, and they started to turn their words around, saying they hadn't been to each other's houses, rarely phoned each other, etc.

#10-6
KinKi went to a convenience store. Tsuyoshi was undecided over which ice cream to buy. Kouichi told him to buy all [in terms of types, I hope]. They were then seen bringing home a lot of ice cream.

#10-7
When 19 came on Pop Jam, one of the members said that he once happened to be in the vicinity of Tsuyoshi's house, so he called Tsuyoshi up. At that time, Tsuyoshi told him he was cleaning his room because Kouichi was coming to visit. Kouichi didn't deny that story on the show.

#10-8
A Japanese fan tried to chat with Tsuyoshi after a recording session, but Kouichi kept sticking to Tsuyoshi's side possessively. (Primary kid behaviour!) He was shooting looks that said 'Tsuyoshi is mine... Only I can stick close to him'.

#10-10 | #111
Nagase said on radio that he saw two toothbrushes at Kouichi's home. When he asked Kouichi about it, somehow Kouichi just started talking about how Tsuyo's teeth weren't so good so he needed to watch over Tsuyo's brushing teeth routine, etc etc. [On a separate occasion,] Kouichi complained how Nagase couldn't keep a secret.

#11-13
DK used to have the "Doumoto XX Arena" segment where Tsuyoshi usually had a food challenge. From there, KinKi had been sharing the same cup for their drinks: after Tsuyoshi drank, Kouichi would take up the cup to drink like it was normal.

#11-16
DK unaired scene: someone mentioned KinKi's 'Jetcoaster Romance' PV, and Kouichi said, "That one is a homo PV."

#11-19
Donnamonya: Fans letter mentioned that on the flight back from F Con at Fukuoka, s/he spotted Tsuyoshi on the same plane. Tsuyoshi was instantly recognizable because he dressed fashionably. S/he saw a plainly dressed person always sticking to Tsuyoshi's back and thought it was Tsuyoshi's personal assistant, then later realized it was Kouichi. After KinKi read this letter, they didn't say anything to deny the story, but instead talked about Kouichi's overly plain image.

#11-20
On radio, a fans mentioned that s/he saw Tsuyoshi and his manager eating at a restaurant. A while later Kouichi arrived. Tsuyoshi promptly handed him the menu and asked what he would like to eat. The fans said Tsuyoshi seemed very gentle and caring towards Kouichi. Again, KinKi didn't say anything to deny this story.

#11-20a
When KinKi went to Hokkaido to guest on a show, Tsuyoshi bought crabs from the Hokkaido market and gave them to the show host. He seemed to regret that he didn't get to eat any crab himself. A few months later, Kouichi went for filming at Hokkaido. He bought some crabs back and invited Tsuyoshi to eat, but Tsuyoshi had to turn it down because he had to go for an early morning show the next day. Later on, Kouichi watched the aforementioned show, and sent Tsuyoshi a message of encouragement.

#11-21
In the past when Kouichi went to various places in Japan for work, he would bring back souvenirs for Tsuyoshi every time. Once he had no money on him, so he borrowed some from his manager first, solely for this purpose. Tsuyoshi mentioned once that Kouichi gave him a door curtain from Izu.

#11-22
Paparazzi vs Jimusho, Round 2: There was a Japanese paparazzi who took 'prohibited photos' of Tsuyoshi and Kouichi together. The content was unknown. The jimusho took the photos into their possession and also gave the journalist a job at their company, supposedly to keep the secret under control.

#11-23
Tsuyoshi's good friend Mori [Kazuya] phoned Tsuyoshi, but it was Kouichi who picked up.
Mori: "This is Tsuyoshi's phone, right?"
Kou: "Right. I'm busy right now, please call again later."
The next day, Mori asked Tsuyoshi about it.
Tsu: "That's because I was being bullied by an ero prince."

#12-24
This was told by Kouichi on Wink Up. When Tsuyoshi was filming Roshinante, Kouichi had more free time, so he drove his Ferrari to Tsuyoshi's shooting location. He didn't tell Tsuyoshi beforehand, thinking that, this way, he could tell the filming staff and Tsuyoshi that he just happened to pass by. In the end, he didn't manage to see Tsuyoshi, and griped about it when they were hosting the radio show together. Tsuyoshi laughed and said Kouichi had bad timing, as they had just moved to another filming location.

#12-25
In the past there was a Japanese late-night show that stalked celebrities. The KinKi Kids edition went like this: Tsuyoshi went to Kouichi's house and stayed in Kouichi's room looking at photo albums, while Kouichi got busy doing various things around the house. After a while, Tsuyoshi lied on the bed and fell asleep. After Kouichi was done, he also went to bed. He lied there watching Tsuyoshi for a while, then drew up the blanket over the both of them and went to sleep.

#12-27
Tsuyoshi had weak physique since he was little, so Kouichi had been taking care of him. Once after a concert (location unsure, maybe Sapporo or Fukuoka) they rushed back to Tokyo for work. A fans managed to get into the same flight as them, and discreetly spied on them every now and then with the pretense of going to the toilet. At that time, Kouichi's was the aisle seat, while Tsuyoshi's was the window seat. At meal time, Kouichi kept fussing over Tsuyoshi and getting him to eat properly. Tsuyoshi shared the delicious food items to Kouichi, too.

#23
The Case of the Cross Necklace: Tsuyoshi was a Buddhist, but had been seen wearing a cross during the last show of F Con and in Thailand. Fans speculated that it was Kouichi (who was a Christian*) who gave it to him. A post in KKK said that Kouichi had once worn the same cross necklace that Tsuyoshi was wearing in Thailand.
* I don't have the impression he was ever one (with the Buddha jacket story and all xD) but maybe someone else have more information?

#24
One of the shows in Tsuyoshi's Rosso e Azzurro concert tours started 15 minutes late. According to Momo's report, Kouichi visited Tsuyoshi at the resting room, and ended up eating beef rice there. Kouichi hadn't finished eating by the opening time, so Tsuyoshi delayed the show opening for 10 minutes.

#41
A Japanese fan, after watching SHOCK, saw Tsuyoshi at the carpark coming to pick Kouichi up.

#48
Another report said Kouichi went to fetch Tsuyoshi after Tsuyoshi's concert.

#49
Kimura [Takuya] said on a radio broadcast that he went drinking with Tsuyoshi, who then got drunk. Kimura offered to send him home, but Tsuyoshi said Kouichi would come to pick him up.

#60
There was a journalist who stalked Kouichi for 1-2 weeks, but Kouichi hardly ever went out. He only went out a few times to eat with others, including Tsuyoshi. In the end, the journalist gave up, since there was nothing to report.

#61
A more common story is that Tsuyoshi went to Kouichi's place more often [than the other way around]. Back when Tsuyoshi was very busy filming dramas, some said Kouichi moved into Tsuyoshi's place. Somone asked Kouichi on the radio about the rumour that Kouichi was helping Tsuyoshi take care of Kenshirou, but Kouichi denied it. (Fans speculated that Kouichi's place was the shared house for both, because Tsuyoshi's family would visit Tsuyoshi's place from time to time.)

#62
Paparazzi from Kansai TV stalked Kouichi with a videocam. It was said that Tsuyoshi was caught inside but they failed to realize it at that time. Some Kansai shows had evidences that Tsuyoshi had been to Kouichi's residence, and that they had gone out to eat together.

#71--#72
In 1999, Kouichi was nervous about his MASK musical. Tsuyoshi couldn't attend the show, so he asked Manager-san to pass a small piece of paper to Kouichi. The content was something like: "Don't be nervous, don't force yourself, just be yourself" along with a cute drawing.
In interviews, Kouichi said of that piece of paper: "I can feel Tsuyoshi's love." He kept the paper inside his wallet as a lucky charm. This piece of paper later appeared in a magazine.
(Kouichi once said the charms people gave him were troublesome as he couldn't decide whether to keep them or throw them away. No wonder, as he already had the most important one.)

#74
MS and Shindoi's producer Hayashi-P's words on a magazine: "The two of KinKi Kids are very close. Kouichi-kun often goes to Tsuyoshi's resting room. They have a good relationship."

#76
Wink Up Taiwan reported that Kouichi went into Tsuyoshi's resting room and talked cheerfully. Tsuyoshi listened to him, nodding along. Kouichi wore Tsuyoshi's hat when he left the room. They said that Tsuyoshi seemed like an elder brother to Kouichi.

#80
Paparazzi vs Jimusho, Round 3: A few years ago Nagase and Ayumi were photographed going to Disneyland together. Allegedly the jimusho gave that photo to the journalist as an exchange for a photo of KinKi kissing in private.

#87
Tsuyoshi's mother once gave Kouichi a pen as a Christmas present. Kouichi used to carry it everywhere when he was a boy. He also enjoyed chatting with Tsuyoshi's father.
* Edit: Substantiating reference

#89
Kouichi kept saying he wanted to go play at Tsuyoshi's house. Tsuyoshi told him not to, but Kouichi kept saying he wanted to. Then Tsuyoshi suddenly pushed Kouichi down. Kouichi was too shocked to react, and he simply froze there. Tsuyoshi said, "You hate this, don't you? If you come to my place, this is what will happen!" Then he released Kouichi.
(It was said that starting from around 1996, their love was so fiery it was blinding.)

#110
Mori Kazuya's words: "If Kouichi doesn't change his habit of not going out much, he will never find a girlfriend. Kouichi only knows to ask a girl out to public parks, how can that be at this time and age? Tsuyoshi is just as bad; he called Kouichi and asked him out to the park, only to request Kouichi to play Fukada Kyouko's character so he could rehearse his script. That much is fine, but if you two are together most of the time, how will you get to know girls?"

#115
Backstage, Kouichi pulled Kenshirou's legs and made the dog do somersaults. When Tsuyoshi heard from the staff, he immediately went to his dog's rescue, and angrily asked Kouichi why he would bully the dog. Kouichi replied, "I'm jealous. You treat Kenshirou better than you treat me." Tsuyoshi couldn't answer.

#116
Wink Up, Donnamonya section. Tsuyoshi had brought a fish magazine along and was spiritedly explaining the cuteness of fish to everyone present. Kouichi, who usually had no interest, made a rare contribution: "They are cute indeed..." Tsuyoshi, holding the magazine on one hand, scribbled on a piece of paper with the other hand. The others thought he was drawing a fish, but then they saw that it was a drawing of a F1 racing car.

#121
On Donnamonya, someone said that s/he saw Tsuyoshi at the front passenger seat of Kouichi's new car, and asked if Kouichi's front passenger seat was reserved for Tsuyoshi. The two denied that Tsuyoshi had rode on Kouichi's new car, but never addressed the issue of the front passenger seat [for the old car].

#122
On radio, a letter mentioned Tsuyoshi was seen buying the same underwear for Kouichi. The two were saying, "Impressive! Impressive!" then fell silent, and changed the topic.

#123
Because of his drama, Tsuyoshi had been absent from Donnamonya recording. After he returned, Kouichi said, "Why are you so cold to me? Recently the work we had together was only one MS performance, and still you ignored me." Tsuyoshi only laughed. Kouichi said, "Your eyes are scary," and commented very quietly that Tsuyoshi was homo*. (This wasn't really audible among the laughing voices of Tsuyoshi and the staff.)
* I don't get the connection, so I'm not sure what the whole thing is about.

#125
Rumours went that during the press conference for Remote, Kouichi asked the journalists if they weren't going to ask him about [the rumours of] KinKi disbanding. He angrily said, "If you want to ask about that, ask me. Don't go and ask Tsuyoshi." The exchanges in press conferences in Japan were usually planned ahead, so the journalists were shocked when he suddenly snapped out at the end of the event.

#132
Japanese fans were very sturdy, with super discerning eyes. At F Con, Tsuyoshi grabbed Kouichi aside and whispered in his ear, then both of them did a cartwheel together. Soon afterwards a fans letter asked: why was it that as soon as Tsuyoshi asked, Kouichi would do the flip? Why was it that Kouichi always gave Tsuyoshi that kind of smiling face? (Haha, no need to ask this question, was there?) Some said that Kouichi hogged Tsuyoshi too much, and so on.
These fans would also ask about the rumour that all Kouichi's clothes were bought by Tsuyoshi, and other such rumours. - -
There was one that pointed out how Kouichi was always watching Tsuyoshi's jokes, always cracking up at them. Good thing these two never changed this point. = =
Most hilarious was the one who asked whether or not Kouichi['s xx size] was [the size of] "a-hundred-yen lighter"...
But no one had asked about the suspected kiss in 2003-2004. Could there be an unspoken agreement? [Because] once asked, we might never see it again. - -

#137
It was once mentioned on radio that Tsuyoshi went to watch SHOCK, then saw two girls carrying Kouichi's uchiwa. When the girls saw him, they excitedly called out, "Tsuyo, Tsuyo," which irked him: "You come to watch Kouichi, right? Shouldn't you focus your attention on him?" Since then, he never told anyone when he went to Kouichi's solo performances. Kouichi did the same. This was the case for Kouichi's 2004 solo con and Tsuyoshi's solo cons. Tsuyoshi was the more stealthy of the two. Kouichi was once found out because his hiding attempts were so innocent: he hid away whenever the lights were on and sat back down once the lights were off again, adorably tossing and turning like this.

#139
During Love Love Aishiteru, the guest at the room beside KinKi's heard strange sounds: "Tsuyoshi... don't lick there! I say don't lick it!" When this side asked that side what they were doing, from the gap under the door, the shell of a shrimp was thrown out...

#144
In AN Con 2005 on Kouichi's birthday, Tsuyoshi said to Kouichi, "Happy 54th birthday." We would think it was just a random saying, but...
In a DK episode in 2003, Kouichi had answered a question saying his mental age was already 52. This would mean it would be 54 in 2005.
Tsuyoshi did well to remember this!

#199
After a show, Kouichi gave MA 3 days off. (A member, probably Akiyama, wrote in his diary.) Soon afterwards a fan saw Kouichi at the airport, departing for Hawaii. At that time Tsuyoshi was in Hawaii to shoot for 'Shoujiki I LOVE YOU' photobook. Fans at the location saw Kouichi entering the hotel Tsuyoshi stayed in.


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Comments

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[info]fishings wrote:
Jan. 14th, 2010 06:16 pm (UTC)
*__* Delightful to read, all of these. Thank you for translating! (<3 no more having to struggle with the chinese)
I'm sure I had my pinch of salt in my hand, but by the end half the grains had disappeared. *bricked* I feel really inspired to go digging through older magazine interviews for hidden nuggets of information now.
[info]kireira wrote:
Jan. 14th, 2010 06:28 pm (UTC)
I'm happy to be done with this, myself. xD The slangs they use in those Chinese forums... 0_o

xD I don't doubt some of these. The dressing room tales, however, made me almost not want to type them out.. not that I can be sure they didn't do it, but if they did, it would really shatter their perceived personalities that I've been holding on in my mind. LOL.
[info]fishings wrote:
Jan. 14th, 2010 06:33 pm (UTC)
XD The only one I've managed to pick up (which I still remember) is 'pink'.

The dressing room tales make me skeptical of the authenticity too. I'm curious about your perceived personalities. KinKi, if they were in a relationship, would never be that careless and unprofessional? :p
[info]kireira wrote:
Jan. 14th, 2010 06:42 pm (UTC)
Ah, so 'pink' is indeed exclusive to Chinese forums? Adorably, they do have pages on the internet where somebody asks, "What does [this term] means?" (in Chinese). The one about Kouichi's "one-hundred-yen lighter" held the record for most extensive research I've done so far! xD

My perceived personalities of young KinKi are maybe not so much 'professional' but 'good Jimusho children' I guess? =DD Their crazy young selves did a lot of those things but only for show; I don't imagine they would do that to the staff. xP
[info]fishings wrote:
Jan. 16th, 2010 04:22 am (UTC)
I'm not too sure, but I see it used extensively in chinese fandom. XD 'pink' this and 'pink' that. The one-hundred-yen-lighter actually has more to it? I'd like to know!

Ahaha I see what you mean. Seeing the way they're so grateful to the company and their sempai now, you'd think that they wouldn't want to cause trouble for them.
[info]kireira wrote:
Jan. 16th, 2010 05:44 pm (UTC)
Oh, nothing much more to it aside from my own woe story in finding out what it means. =D; The line only said: "...whether Kouichi was a '100-yen lighter'". I thought it was a metaphor, and landed on a few essays (in Chinese) about the economical merits of a 100-yen lighter compared to 1000 pieces of matches... ^^0 Then I finally found another Chinese forum where someone actually asked what that meant.

From memory, there were some amusing bits there... "Asking that is a bit insulting. They should at least make it a 1000-yen one." "I don't think it'd be much bigger?" "It's the quality (endurance)!" ^_^0

I think I get that image from TOKIO's dorm-era story about how KinKi were 'good kids' who got the nice dorm while the rest ended up under Leader. xDDD
[info]gally04 wrote:
Jan. 14th, 2010 06:36 pm (UTC)
*ninja*

Awww I find the dressing room's tales so amusing XD
It has a feeling of total bullying XDDDD (poor staff *laughs* =) )

And somehow, it wouldn't surprise me that much :p
Guys can be such dorks ^^;;; *points to her own male friends who do that to entertain her* huhuhu

No, in fact I'm more surprised with all those rumours of paparazzi photos of them kissing O.o
That... I don't really believe it XDD

Edited at 2010-01-14 06:37 pm (UTC)
[info]kireira wrote:
Jan. 14th, 2010 06:47 pm (UTC)
You have such entertaining friends! xD

Ahhh probably makes sense if they did that to bully the new staff... Now that makes me want it to be true LOL.

The paparazzi photos rumors did sound very fake. =P
[info]gally04 wrote:
Jan. 14th, 2010 07:02 pm (UTC)
You can say crazy, I won't mind XDD
But maybe it's in our culture ^^;; It's true such a demonstration of friendship could be weirdly perceived *laughs*

Young KinKi were certainly very clingy but they also knew how to bully people :p I really can imagine them fooling around, knowing someone will irremediably come and tell them it's time to go :p

Nah =)
I don't think the Jimusho can ever 'pay' such pics XD
[info]kireira wrote:
Jan. 14th, 2010 07:12 pm (UTC)
It made me think that since KinKi already did outrageous fan service, they could actually try to make excuses like there were hidden cameras to record them for some show, or something. LOL.
[info]gally04 wrote:
Jan. 14th, 2010 07:14 pm (UTC)
That would be a bit lame =))
*ROFL*
[info]kireira wrote:
Jan. 14th, 2010 07:25 pm (UTC)
Lame for them, happy for us who might get the chance to see those 'official' photos, LOL.
[info]jandeth wrote:
Jan. 14th, 2010 07:10 pm (UTC)
*another ninja*

I could imagine KinKi bullying the staff or reporters every single time the possibly could and have a good laugh about it later.
like how They got "caught"

The paparazzi pics sound so over the top, but then again the Jimusho isn't new to hiding things/pictures.
[info]ladyxenax wrote:
Jan. 14th, 2010 07:16 pm (UTC)
Paparazzi pic rumour is old. I've read about it before. )
[info]kireira wrote:
Jan. 14th, 2010 07:18 pm (UTC)
I miss fearless young KinKi sometimes. xD *as if I don't already rewatch their old vids many times*

The truth is so elusive. =P
[info]jandeth wrote:
Jan. 14th, 2010 07:39 pm (UTC)
I don't think KinKi changed that much as they got older, eg one of the swansong MS appearances and the "fight" inside the dressingroom and then coming out all happily-ever-after XD
and the old lovelove "bus scene" and beating the crap out of each other in the corridor and "making up".

The Jimusho is a good place for rumors, whether they were about relationships or scandals of any kind.
[info]kireira wrote:
Jan. 15th, 2010 03:24 am (UTC)
Ahahaha now that you mention those lovely examples, yeah, they are just as fearless then and now, though now it is low-tension do-what-we-like kinda fearlessness while it used to be hyperactive see-what-we-can-do kinda fearlessness, in my impression. xD
[info]jandeth wrote:
Jan. 15th, 2010 08:59 am (UTC)
"do-what-we-like" and "see-what-we-can-do" are surely the best definitions for them XDD
[info]gally04 wrote:
Jan. 14th, 2010 07:19 pm (UTC)
Double ninja, YAY ! *laughs*

I'm sure they're more shy when it comes to tv fanservice rather than 'bullying fanservice' XDDDD

Well, it depends of the year they were taken (if we can consider they exist XD) ... if it's before the internet boom, then maybe ? But now, it would be completely impossible XD You would earn more money selling them rather than trdaing with the Jimusho ^^
[info]gally04 wrote:
Jan. 14th, 2010 06:18 pm (UTC)
My heaaaaart >_<
*died*

Damn, KinKi rumours can be so yummy <3

Thanks for sharing *BEAA hugs*
[info]kireira wrote:
Jan. 14th, 2010 06:29 pm (UTC)
You're welcome! *BEAA hugs back*
[info]ladyxenax wrote:
Jan. 14th, 2010 06:40 pm (UTC)
*_* That made my evening.
[info]kireira wrote:
Jan. 14th, 2010 06:47 pm (UTC)
^___^
[info]jandeth wrote:
Jan. 14th, 2010 07:03 pm (UTC)
oh yeah, about that Kindaichi jacket Koichi was wearing at the Ginrou filming.
Duet 1996/3 Koichi (when asked about it): "Because it was really cold, Tsuyoshi lent it to me."
[info]kireira wrote:
Jan. 14th, 2010 07:07 pm (UTC)
=DDD Thanks for the info! KinKi, so adorable. =3
[info]jandeth wrote:
Jan. 14th, 2010 07:14 pm (UTC)
that coat is shown in every magazine where there were a story about Ginrou, but yeah adorable ^_^

To me it's more like an obvious thing that they would take care of each other and be close. Like can't they be close without all the homo rumors? XDD
...which reminds me of a magazine interview of KinKi during the time Ningen Shikkaku aired on tv. There were questions from viewers/fans to both of KinKi and the last quation was from a 15 year old: "Is Koichi a homo?" to which Koichi answered: "What the hell? I like girls" and Tsu: "me too."
XD
[info]kireira wrote:
Jan. 14th, 2010 07:23 pm (UTC)
LOL. Yeah, it seems to me they were really close around their debut. Logical too, with all the pressure from work that they faced together, I think. The homo rumours though, I can't help but think they (or whoever directed them) brought it upon themselves with what they do on screen, lol.
[info]jandeth wrote:
Jan. 14th, 2010 07:47 pm (UTC)
yeah, they probably brought it on themselves on purpose or by accident, either way, but it's not like they seem to be much really affected by them. I mean they laugh at them too, and joke about it. Though it could still be a burden to them.
though those rumors are amusing and good material for fics XDD
oh yeah, about about Koichi being Christian and Tsu buddhist. I don't think that rumor is true (#23). What I have come to understand, religion doesn't really matter as such to Japanese. And they can "be" christians or buddhists or Shinto in different times of their lives. It's not really emphasized anywhere, to what religion you belong. It's more the way of life kind of feeling.
[info]kireira wrote:
Jan. 15th, 2010 03:19 am (UTC)
They are okay with any rumor now it seems, so it's all good. xD And yes, good fic material lol. Though I think they probably did struggle through it.. On this same page someone wrote a paragraph 'supposing KinKi were in a relationship' and brought up the rumor about Tsuyo's mother coming to the jimusho to take him home and Tsuyo talking about 'protecting the ones important to him', and speculated if their denial about having any private interaction (to counter the homo rumors) was meant to 'protect' their families. It influenced me a little bit. ^^;

I agree with you about the religion issue. Also I think at this era a cross is as much a fashion accessory as it is a symbol of anything. =P
[info]jandeth wrote:
Jan. 15th, 2010 11:24 pm (UTC)
There's always rumors about everything, and fans are good at "finding" those small things. "protecting the important ones", sounds quite deep.

btw... the #11-13 one... in epi#050 2002.04.14 Sakai Maki
They had a competition between Tsu and the guest which one could eat the most spicy curry. There was different "degrees" of spicyness they ate. Koichi and the others tasted them too, but Koichi couldn't take the spiciness and drank Tsuyoshi's water, twice.

...I'm not stalking these. Really.
[info]kireira wrote:
Jan. 16th, 2010 05:58 pm (UTC)
<333

Ahh thanks for pointing it out, I just went and watched that episode. xD
[info]jandeth wrote:
Jan. 16th, 2010 06:09 pm (UTC)
I just randomly watched that epi and remembered that it was one of thsoe romours, so... XD

... I watch too much stuff...
[info]kotsufan wrote:
Jan. 14th, 2010 09:50 pm (UTC)
Thanks for all the hard work~ these were so fun :D although many of them are unlikely I like to tell myself that the more plausible ones are true X3
[info]kireira wrote:
Jan. 15th, 2010 03:05 am (UTC)
You're welcome. ^^ It's amusing how these things came about, true or not. =DD
[info]hachigatsu_neko wrote:
Jan. 15th, 2010 03:29 am (UTC)
Thanks for translating <3333. Nice stuff to amuse me in the morning :DDDD. These all really interesting na XD.

#10-10 | #111 - The toothbrush's rumor...this one reminded me of a story from KK doujinshiXD.
#87 : About the pen gave by Tsuyo's mother, I remembered this information written on Get The Kinki with the pic of the pen. And it also said have Kou's name carve on it.
[info]kireira wrote:
Jan. 15th, 2010 03:32 am (UTC)
You're welcome! ^^

Oh, thanks for the info! =D *goes to edit*
[info]hachigatsu_neko wrote:
Jan. 15th, 2010 05:20 am (UTC)
>.> sorry fail at html *headdesk*.

the pic. scan thx to [info]letsgetfunkasy
[info]kireira wrote:
Jan. 15th, 2010 06:13 am (UTC)
=D thanks!!
[info]fenlings wrote:
Jan. 15th, 2010 05:51 am (UTC)
Wow 12-25 sounds insane!!! You've made me all discombobulated with these. WHAT IS REALITY? IS MY GREEN THE SAME AS YOUR GREEN? THERE IS NO SPOON.
[info]kireira wrote:
Jan. 15th, 2010 06:16 am (UTC)
*googles 'discombobulated'* Oh. xD
[info]emerald0805 wrote:
Jan. 15th, 2010 08:45 am (UTC)
seriously u made my day... i miss 2 of them since i didnt hear any news about them this week...even this is uwasa i still hope its true maybe 80% hehehe... thank u for sharing....
[info]kireira wrote:
Jan. 15th, 2010 03:49 pm (UTC)
You're welcome! ^^
[info]peachie_cyo wrote:
Jan. 15th, 2010 04:23 pm (UTC)
*pop up from my lurking corner*
showered you with love (happy coz i shouldn't have playing puzzle with chinese ver xD)
starting long comment....

#5-30 | #142
This makes me remember with what Tsuyo talked in SDK 091108 (guest: MINMI) xD Although the setting was Hawaii, and not NY.

#6-34
~While on Shindoi he said he want to buy the smaller one, coz he doesn't play videogames *laughs xD*


#6-36 and #7-63
This makes me remember of an old tv show where the staff (the announcer) trying to burst into KK gakuya without prior greeting/notice and found KK stick to each other on the sofa with Tsuyo's (?) shirt in the mess (obviously made up). Is there any chance they refer to this?

#7-43 | #94
Plus the license taken on Yokohama bay xD;; why would he go far to Yokohama to take Kenchan walk?

#7-49
Probably it's a midnight (?) shopping during the filming shot when they was teenager. There's a photo shown in Friday, i think. They just in charges to buy the foods and all. But still, it's they both go alone ^^

#7-59
that another version raised up again during 2003, wasn't it?

#8-69
and Koichi got big bear hug from Tsu xD while Koichi saying, "it's ok. we're family right?"

#8-70
Natsukashiii~~ xD i thot they brought the cellphone on stage? or not? ah~ my memory failed~


#9-1
Often heard about this. I wonder if this rumor raised up around 1998 -1999?

#10-5
Could this refer to the filming of Daibouken / Daishouso? where Tsuyo grabbed Koichi's arm while they walked together? But it's 1996 /1997 ne... lol, time line was not suitable.

#10-10 | #111
Next time Nagase asked about KinKi Kids' secret, he glanced to Koichi and answered "their relationship is not good" xD lol~ what a good boy

#11-21
Still <3<3<3 this. Pikaichi and japan walker <3

#89
I guess i ever got old Donnamonya transcript that similar with this (lazy to diggin my old unorganized entries). But when Koichi insist to go to Tsuyo's house, Tsuyo said there are many traps inside his house, there will be something like "kabooom" and such if Koichi walk inside (ninja house? xDD;). Because Koichi keep insisting, finally Tsu said "ok then. you bring your friend, i bring my friend (that way you can/allowed to come to my house)" ROFL~!

#110
Oh so it's Mori? I though it's Taichi said at Wink Up message. Thanks. i guess i was wrong then.

#116
<3 I remember this xD

#144
Laugh. Tsuyo good at this na? laugh! I didn't notice this xD

#199
Another rumor flying around this time should be that Reiko Takagaki, instead of Koichi, i guess? xD;; (ah kuchi miffy :x)

I love their radio show, esp. Donnamonya xDD Fans' question sometimes hilarious. Last year, the postcard also also asked about MS Swan Song, it said "Tsuyoshi staring at Koichi so intensely. Why?! while Koichi avert his gaze to other direction. my heart fluttered when i saw this, was koichi-kun being shied away? nakayoshi kinki ga suki~ please keep continue like this forever" Laughs~~

Anyhow, KinKi almost never denied the story laugh. including rumor of Naohito / tsumabuki (? i forgot) with Tsuyo, they're also not denied it...
[info]kireira wrote:
Jan. 15th, 2010 05:18 pm (UTC)
Waaaaah. =D I didn't know so much of it are actually not so baseless after all! Thank you!

~While on Shindoi he said he want to buy the smaller one, coz he doesn't play videogames *laughs xD*
Lol Tsuyo, changes his mind as much as he changes hairstyle? xD Love him anyway!

This makes me remember of an old tv show where the staff (the announcer) trying to burst into KK gakuya without prior greeting/notice and found KK stick to each other on the sofa with Tsuyo's (?) shirt in the mess (obviously made up). Is there any chance they refer to this?
Ahh I saw that clip in love_is_kinki's pimp post. Because the rumours said the 'victim' is 'staff' I didn't think it was the same case, but I can't vouch if the rumour is correctly reported either (even if it is not a fact). xD In any case, they are quite creative with the neck nuzzling thing lol.

Plus the license taken on Yokohama bay xD;; why would he go far to Yokohama to take Kenchan walk?
LOL. It's sweet to see the rare failure of Tsuyoshi's made-up stories. <3

Probably it's a midnight (?) shopping during the filming shot when they was teenager. There's a photo shown in Friday, i think. They just in charges to buy the foods and all. But still, it's they both go alone ^^
Ah I see! I guess I'm still happier that it did happen than I'm disappointed that it wasn't what the rumor implied. LOL.

that another version raised up again during 2003, wasn't it?
This one I don't know, actually.. ^^0 *still green*

Next time Nagase asked about KinKi Kids' secret, he glanced to Koichi and answered "their relationship is not good" xD lol~ what a good boy
Oh so that's how it is! xD I thought he was just teasing them when he said that.

I guess i ever got old Donnamonya transcript that similar with this (lazy to diggin my old unorganized entries). But when Koichi insist to go to Tsuyo's house, Tsuyo said there are many traps inside his house, there will be something like "kabooom" and such if Koichi walk inside (ninja house? xDD;). Because Koichi keep insisting, finally Tsu said "ok then. you bring your friend, i bring my friend (that way you can/allowed to come to my house)" ROFL~!
ROFL indeed! xD Could it be that in truth he is the one afraid of being attacked by pervert!Kouichi? xDDD When I read that one I thought it might as well be a doujinshi, because the post just told that story without mentioning any source. ^^0

Oh so it's Mori? I though it's Taichi said at Wink Up message. Thanks. i guess i was wrong then.
I translated from what it said there, but I don't really know how accurate they are. ^^;;;;

Laugh. Tsuyo good at this na? laugh! I didn't notice this xD
He is. xD

Ahaha, the crazy questions from fans. xD But I'd imagine KinKi should have a lot of fans letters to pick from, so if they willingly choose to share with us those crazy rumours... Or maybe ALL the letters are that crazy? LOL.
[info]soulezz wrote:
Jan. 20th, 2010 02:39 am (UTC)
i'm not sure is this "When Kouichi guested on Kishidan's radio show to promote his new single, he kept talking about Tsuyoshi having a 15-sec kiss scene on his latest drama and how long that was." Koichi's way of saying "why don't i get a kissing scene in my drama." LOL.

thanks for the little bit of info, even though it may not true, it still entertain me to a certain level. XD)
[info]kireira wrote:
Jan. 21st, 2010 01:41 am (UTC)
Ahahaha. Don't know which year he said this.. In the end I guess he had quite a number of such scenes yea?
You're welcome! ^^
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